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#61 Creative Hamster

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 06:23 AM

This may be slightly off topic to PETA directly, but I was thinking about it the other day when I was switching my dog's food to a more "enriched" diet. AKA, Acana red meat. and also after the little speal with the little troll on the other thread awhile ago...

Uhm.
So, because people who eat meat and consume animal products are "wrong" and that "meat" is only meat when you "bite into the flesh of an animal as it's dying", and that's the "only" way to make it right... what do we think of dogs? cats? Ferrets? Fish? Reptiles? ALL of our pets who eat their food much as others do? Hm. Seems like a hole in the theory.
They didn't kill for theur food, it was handed to them. But that's okay? Huh! And I thought that we were ALL equal! So now what, animals are superior? Even though. We're ALL animals, and are all SUPPOSED to be equal?!? :laughing:




Though that may be partly true, remember we don't let them be wild and hunt for survival but more like forced to live to live with us so we give them food. Sorry that seemed a bit harsh, but it's our fault these animals are hand fed so they're not really apart of the food chain. Careful, PETA can bring this fact against us. But I'm not defending PETA either. :scratchchin:

Edited by Creative Hamster, 11 November 2011 - 06:24 AM.





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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:10 AM

I'm all for some of the things they'll fight for, but I think their methods are usually way off mark. I grew up a vegetarian with my mum being one too and while she did it for animal rights, she preferred to just keep her ideas to herself. Aside from all the other stuff about them killing animals I just think they're way too 'force-it-down-your-throat' in their approach to pretty much everything.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:09 AM

I'm all for some of the things they'll fight for, but I think their methods are usually way off mark. I grew up a vegetarian with my mum being one too and while she did it for animal rights, she preferred to just keep her ideas to herself. Aside from all the other stuff about them killing animals I just think they're way too 'force-it-down-your-throat' in their approach to pretty much everything.


It's nice to do your own goals, like you're a vegetarian so you are making a difference yourself. I'd actually support PETA if they weren't so "extreme" which is exactly what you meant. Thanks for your opinion :D

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 07:55 AM

It's nice to do your own goals, like you're a vegetarian so you are making a difference yourself. I'd actually support PETA if they weren't so "extreme" which is exactly what you meant. Thanks for your opinion :D

You're welcome :veryhappy:
Like you said, I'd rather know that I'm not for example, buying fur and funding that sector or housing wild animals in terrible conditions or whatever too. I think most of what they say are things that most people avoid doing now anyway, but they also feel so very concerned by everyone's personal decisions and look down on anyone not with them, and that annoys me. I'm not against people who do eat meat or buy their produce from a different place than I do because it's not my place to judge.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 03:01 AM

I know a campaign called Animal Aid and they are really good!

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/AA/HOME/

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 08:04 AM

I'm against. I mean, come on. A porn site with clips of animal suffering mixed in? Three words. Bat. Poop. Insane.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:40 AM

I agree with PETA on a few things however I do not support them for the simple reasons that they kill animals and hurt people physically.

I agree %100 that people should not be breeding dogs or cat for any reasons. We have wayyyy to many in the shelter to keep breeding more. Humans only make the dog species worse by "playing god" with selective breeding. There is really no justification for breeding and I absolutely hate it when breeders hide behind the "We're bettering the breed" joke.No. You're not. We see this in countless breeds like English bull dogs, Pugs, Pekinese, actually scratch that. Every purebred breed! Every dog they breed kill one in the shelter. Same goes for cats. I actually consider them the worse.

I also agree in the freeing the "Animal farms". Crammed and overcrowded is no way to live. I understand the cycle of life and that we must eat meat but we should treat animals with more respect. These animals should be on free roaming farms until the day comes for them to be made in to food.

I just dont agree with the dogs and cats that PETA has put to sleep and the way that they hurt, harass, and attack people. It's not right. I remember hearing about one case where they freed a farm and some of the animals got hit by cars... And another case where they passed these terrifying pictures of Ronald McDonald as a killer clown to little kids...Oh and dont get me started on the "Mama kills" thanksgiving game.....

Edited by Chibihamster, 21 February 2012 - 12:01 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:04 PM

I know that for myself, that while PETA and I may share some viewpoints with PETA this does not mean that I support them or any of their actions. It is simply a coincidence.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:37 AM

I don't care for PETA at all they have lost site of what they used to mean in my opinion and what I find really stupid about them is attacking video games. Yes, they've gone after Cooking Mama and Mario for stupid reasons; the reasons for going after Cooking Mama is because they think the game teaches kids how to kill animals (um, what?) and they think Mario is out to kill animals for their skin (again what?). In my personal opinion PETA needs to go away and stop giving true animal organizations a bad name.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:56 PM

Did you ever hear of the PETA naked walks? Posted Image Ew. That is all I can say for those people. Ew.Posted Image

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

I was going over some PETA articles on their site, and I noticed that there were no cites sources of information. If you're not big on the English and Literature thing, the rule of thumb is that if you write an informative article, you state where you received your information from, weather it's in context with the article, or stated in a bibliography afterwards. Because I'm a bit of a punk, I e-mailed PETA in regards to this, posing as a student doing a project. I inquired where they got their information from in a Petsmart and petfarm article. They responded, "We get all of our information and photos from inside eyes that are in the industry." I sent another email, including a link to the article I was referring to. Stating, "I'm sorry, but you didn't answer my question. I want to know PETA's sources for this particular article." The never responded to me after that. If the article was 100% true, they shouldn't have had an issue with sharing their sources.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:26 PM

Sounds shady.... veeeeery shady...Posted Image

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:56 PM

Again PETA is more worried about Mario and Cooking Mama over actually helping people; but in all seriousness that right there does sound very shady and from my own personal experiences Petsmart isn't as bad as PETA is trying to make them out to be. Now I know not all stores are equal but the one I go to is always clean, the animals at least look healthy, and the staff that I have spoken with are informative to a point; so in other words PETA needs to get off their high horse and take down the things that they have said about these stores. I mean what was posted could have been true but I felt from the videos they shot looked very staged and was trying to make these chain stores look bad. I understand that some chain stores look horrible and they don't take care of their animals properly but to make an attempt to trash every single store in the States and other places isn't a good thing either. Never cared PETA and never will.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

While I'll admit that I've seen some awful conditions at Petco, the local Petsmart here has the cleanest and overall best enclosures for their animals out of most other pet shops in the area. Perhaps this is not the case in other locations, but I fully support my local Petsmart until I have a reason to stand otherwise.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:05 PM

And meanwhile, while they could be actually SAVING some animals (and not killing them) they are trying to sue mario and cooking mama Posted Image