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#1 cyinmin

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 05:22 PM

2 weeks ago I noticed my hamster's last toe was a bit swollen and there was a 'whitehead' tip poking out of his toe. I extracted it using a tweezer and what came out was like a 'whitehead/blackhead' thing. I swabbed that area with some thyme tea.

Now the same toe is swollen again and I'm not sure if its the same thing growing inside.
Any idea what this is?




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Posted 17 September 2011 - 09:11 PM

It might be the same thing again, it's very common for cyst or things like that to occur again in the same area in case all of it wasn't removed completely. If you want a vet can help with removing all of it and letting it heal. However I'm not an expert so missPixy should know.

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 11:43 PM

he may need a week on baytril to get rid of this... I've had some dwarfs
who had their whole leg or hand swell up, and they had to take oral
baytril. the swelling went away in a couple days afterwards, with no
recurrence.

#4 cyinmin

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 12:47 AM

Thanks missPixy, I will call my vet tomorrow and ask if they could prescribe this. Thanks.

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 03:05 PM

missPixy, would Baytril have any adverse impact on his health for treating his toe?
I will be picking up the Baytril this evening from my vet.
What should I do if the swelling doesnt go away?
As I mentioned earlier, it was a zit-like (whitehead/blackhead) thingy I extracted the first time. This time around, I'm not sure why it has swollen up again but I cant seem to see any tip of a 'zit'.

#6 missPixy

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 11:43 PM

what you need to do before you give him any of the Baytril is
to get him started on some organic yogurt... 1/2 teaspoon to
start, just put it right in his house and leave it there. the yogurt
should contain active cultures so it will act as a "probiotic" and
build protection for his digestive tract.

you want to do this at least 3-4 hours before he gets the Baytril...
at least a few bites of the yogurt. otherwise, the action of the
antibiotic will destroy the active cultures in his intestines, and
this can sometimes cause diarrhea.

I'd be pretty confident that the Baytril will get rid of the swelling.
he may have somehow cut his foot or scratched it while grooming?
and the opening allowed bacteria to get in... just guessing here
though!

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:54 PM

Update-

MissPixy,

Tarzan has started 3 days of baytril (2x a day) but his toes are still swelled. The other day I extracted some gooey substance (like human's zit compound) from that toe. I believer there is still more inside. Hence the swell still. As it's only one of his toe, it's Really tiny and I don't want to cause him too much distress to extract more. I have stopped since 2 days ago.

Will the remaining substance in his toe 'dry' up or should I try to still extract it? His toe still look swollen.

I have also been cleaning his toe with thyme tea x2 daily..

Edited by cyinmin, 23 September 2011 - 10:56 PM.


#8 missPixy

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 11:25 PM

he may need to soak his foot in thyme tea for at least 5mins, 2x a day.
that is odd that the baytril didn't affect this, but some infections are
growing resistant to baytril.

that said~~ the best course would be for you to continue to gently
removing the infection from his toes, and then immediately afterward
soaking his foot for 5mins in the thyme tea. when done, let him stand
on a paper towel and air dry, don't dry off the foot.

there is also a product called "Manuka Honey UMF+16" that can be
applied to where you are taking out the infection. this type of honey
is prescription-grade and has enormous antibacterial capabilities.
it might be a good "occlusive dressing" after this thyme soak, to help
keep the foot from absorbing any other impurities...

the honey is usually sold at organic and whole-food stores...

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:30 PM

It is almost one week now, on Baytril, his little toe is still swollen.
I bath his toe in thyme tea x2 a day with a qtip while he lies on his back and chomp down brocolli. Its the only way I can get him to take his mind of me messing with his leg.

It is quite impossible for me to extract the compound from his toe, there 'zit' tip is not visible.
Will it be OK if we leave it inside just like that? Will it get septic?

Pic of his swollen toe (left leg, a fat knob).
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 11:37 PM

if you do the thyme tea for a week and nothing changes,
you should go to the vet and have them lance this and
clean it. you would also probably get a better idea of
exactly what this is causing the problem.

I wonder, could it be anything to do with his toenail there?

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 11:57 PM

Unfortunately my vet is inexperienced with small exotic animals.. I honestly do not trust them doing much than just the usual check-ups when I suspect my hamsters are having a cold (the doc will usually listen to his breathing and then check for discharge in his nostril). There was once the Doc couldn't even handle my Robo and it jumped off her hands (table height) and landed on the ground. I almost died. Thank goodness my Robo was just a little shock.

So.. back to the vet, I'm not too positive to think they could do it on a dwarf.. is there anything I could do at home?

I checked, his toenail is fine. The swollen bit is on the sides, so his toenail is unaffected. I trim his nails every now and then.
Should I still try to attempt to locate the 'zit' tip?

I must add that this vet that I'm going, is considered one of the better ones. The rest, I have called up and they only treat cats and dogs. Don't think the locals here will bring their hamsters to the vet. Even the clinic I went to, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one with hamsters..

Edited by cyinmin, 28 September 2011 - 11:59 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2011 - 12:41 AM

Have you tried the manuka honey?
It solved a "similar" problem for me, my hamster was having a recurring abscess on the palm of his paw.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 08:27 AM

skywilling, is it the manuka umf+16 that misspixy mentioned?
Did yours also has pus/zit-like on the swollen area?

I will try to look for it.

Update - Just found some honey on the web (happy!)
Does it have to be UMF+16, or can it also be of higher number? ie UMF+20? (UMF20)
There's also one that says "MGO250+" is that the same as +UMF16? (UMF16?)
Which one should I get?

Should I just apply it topically?
Will the hamster just lick it off?

Edited by cyinmin, 29 September 2011 - 08:38 AM.


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Posted 29 September 2011 - 09:31 AM

It can be higher, mine was 25+. It cannot be lower because only above 16 it has healing properties.
The MGO is a new "rank" instead of UMF, but I don't know how it works really.

You just dab it onto the problematic area.
He'll lick it, but he won't be able to get it fully out because it's gooey, so it'll dress the area. It's okay to be licked.

Mine didn't have a zit, but it was swollen like yours and the manuka honey did wonders in 3 days.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 10:38 AM

Thanks for your quick reply. I will order them today.
Another question though, wont it be messy around the cage since he will be walking all over, an likely to get it on other parts of his body/fur when he grooms himself?
How do I clean those off..?