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[ChloesCritters]

 

HK killed these hamsters because there were some hamsters from a shop that had covid-19. They blame the hamster for spreading it to the worker and customer. When i'm pretty sure its the customer or worker who spread it... I have heard that some families have been forced to give up their hamsters. They don't deserve this its not like u would kill a dog because it had covid ):

 

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[Remy]

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HK killed these hamsters because there were some hamsters from a shop that had covid-19. They blame the hamster for spreading it to the worker and customer. When i'm pretty sure its the customer or worker who spread it... I have heard that some families have been forced to give up their hamsters. They don't deserve this its not like u would kill a dog because it had covid ):
 
I'm happy to hear ur opinions

If it’s possible these animals could transmit the virus to humans, that could cause an outbreak. That’s potentially 2,000 separate households exposed. And this isn’t the first time there has been a mass killing of animals due to covid. Denmark and their mink, for example. If these hamsters were in contact with each other at some point (from the same facility, transport, etc.), then it’s possible that more hamsters than just the ones at that store have covid. Testing every single hamster across Hong Kong would be unfeasable. They took the “better safe than sorry” approach and while it is very sad, I can’t condemn them for that.

[ChloesCritters]

If it’s possible these animals could transmit the virus to humans, that could cause an outbreak. That’s potentially 2,000 separate households exposed. And this isn’t the first time there has been a mass killing of animals due to covid. Denmark and their mink, for example. If these hamsters were in contact with each other at some point (from the same facility, transport, etc.), then it’s possible that more hamsters than just the ones at that store have covid. Testing every single hamster across Hong Kong would be unfeasable. They took the “better safe than sorry” approach and while it is very sad, I can’t condemn them for that.

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[randomhamsterpersonn]

 

HK killed these hamsters because there were some hamsters from a shop that had covid-19. They blame the hamster for spreading it to the worker and customer. When i'm pretty sure its the customer or worker who spread it... I have heard that some families have been forced to give up their hamsters. They don't deserve this its not like u would kill a dog because it had covid ):

 

I'm happy to hear ur opinions

 

It's terrible. Absolutely terrible how humans could kill thousands of animals just because some of them had covid. Like you said, what if some dogs have covid? would they euthanize them all, probably not. I feel terrible for the poor families who had to give up their hamsters to be murdered

 

And another thing. There's not even a guarantee that all of those hamsters were sick, nor that they would pass it onto humans, nor that any humans would die from it. In my opinion, this mass culling of animals is not necessary and completely disgusting. Another way to deal with this was that every hamster owner was responsible for testing their own pet for covid instead of having it snatched away and murdered without a guarantee that it was even sick.

Edited by randomhamsterpersonn, 21 January 2022 - 12:09 AM.

[Sparrow]

As upsetting as this news was to read, I understand why it was done. I have a baby and a 7 year old. If I got a hamster as a family pet and it turned out that it infected my kids, but especially my baby, with covid, i would have been livid. Hong Kong has not had a Delta variant outbreak in a while and those hamsters were carrying that specific variant - hong Kong put a lot of measures to effectively lower the number of cases and even almost completely get rid of the Delta variant. Letting those hamsters be spread between thousands of households and risk another outbreak would have been unacceptable.

I am sure this decision was not made lightly but we cannot possibly think that wasting valuable resources testing thousands of hamsters is the way to go.

I do not agree with mass culling of animals, but in this case what is the alternative? It would be so naive to expect anything else other than what is happening right now.

It is done for the benefit of tens of thousands of families - preventing death and lifelong effects of covid of so so many.

[randomhamsterpersonn]

Just found this online

 

"...medical authorities worldwide agree that the risk of animals spreading COVID-19 to people is low."

 

post that it came from https://www.instagram.com/p/CY59bCLPwBC/

[Kikya]

I don't think hamsters can spread covid or get covid. I've had it in my house for about a month now and none of my hamsters are sick. So far the only reports, I've seen of hamsters with covid have come from humans injecting them.

 

Hong Kong is basically run by China now, the same country that created the nasty thing in their lab. They don't care about human rights, let alone animal ones. They locked their own people in a building with no way out and no medical care food/water just to die, just so they wouldn't spread anything. I wouldn't believe any such nonsense that they sent out considering they tried to cover up and lie instead of owning up to the fact that they were conducting illegal experiments and either intentionally or accidentally let it loose on the world.

 

Also, if an animal did give my child a disease, it's no different than getting it from another human. I wouldn't kill someone for giving my child covid, which he most certainly got it from another human. Why would I kill an animal that did it?

 

I personally think SOMETIMES it's ok to experiment on animals, if there is no other safe alternative. However, you must be humane and kind and a good caretaker of the animals. Unlike that disgusting Dr. Fauci and his ilk who let maggots eat away faces of beagles... They are all of the same brand, they don't care about people or animals.

Edited by Kikya, 21 January 2022 - 01:58 AM.

[Remy]

Hong Kong is basically run by China now, the same country that created the nasty thing in their lab. They don't care about human rights, let alone animal ones. They locked their own people in a building with no way out and no medical care food/water just to die, just so they wouldn't spread anything. I wouldn't believe any such nonsense that they sent out considering they tried to cover up and lie instead of owning up to the fact that they were conducting illegal experiments and either intentionally or accidentally let it loose on the world.

That’s hearsay and fear mongering. There is no conclusive proof that supports covid being manmade. That only helps perpetuate discrimination that people are facing due to their ethnicity.

 

Also, if an animal did give my child a disease, it's no different than getting it from another human. I wouldn't kill someone for giving my child covid, which he most certainly got it from another human. Why would I kill an animal that did it?
 

Animals are not humans. I love animals (heck, I’m vegan), but hamsters and people are not comparable here. The point is that they’re trying to reduce the spread. They’re not killing the animals in retaliation. There are so many people who can’t access testing that I can’t see how you could justify testing every single one of those hamsters to be sure they can’t infect anyone.

[Kikya]

That’s hearsay and fear mongering. There is no conclusive proof that supports covid being manmade. That only helps perpetuate discrimination that people are facing due to their ethnicity.

 
Animals are not humans. I love animals (heck, I’m vegan), but hamsters and people are not comparable here. The point is that they’re trying to reduce the spread. They’re not killing the animals in retaliation. There are so many people who can’t access testing that I can’t see how you could justify testing every single one of those hamsters to be sure they can’t infect anyone.

Actually, you are running on information that is about 2 years old. Covid was definitely manmade and funded for the virus research lab in Wuhan, that kind of research is easier to hide in a country that cares nothing for its people. The documentation proving what kind of research was being done and came from that lab and who funded it is all over the internet now. They were doing research on bat corona viruses at one of the most advanced labs in the world where the virus began to spread, where their own scientists got sick from a mysterious illness in late 2019. Anyone that still believes that it came from a meat market where they were eating bats, I have a bridge to sell you lol

 

and the only thing that gave them any deniability what so ever is the fact that they were using techniques that were so advanced, they didn't have the slice and dice traces that they used to leave behind on 20 year old virus research. It's kind of like the world of biologics, you used to use artificial materials to create biologics and now they use organic materials harvested from human bodies that are more easily integrated, less rejected, and once used, you can't tell the difference from what was there and what they added.

 

Chinese people aren't the problem, their government is. If you can't distinguish between a government doing bad things and it's people, that's your problem.

 

Also, how is it ok to kill someone/something because they may or may not spread a disease? All kindergartners would be euthanized if the only criteria is that they spread disease to others. I don't see where the evidence is that the hamsters spread the disease more than the humans that came in or out of the store.

Edited by Kikya, 21 January 2022 - 04:45 AM.

[ChloesCritters]

If it’s possible these animals could transmit the virus to humans, that could cause an outbreak. That’s potentially 2,000 separate households exposed. And this isn’t the first time there has been a mass killing of animals due to covid. Denmark and their mink, for example. If these hamsters were in contact with each other at some point (from the same facility, transport, etc.), then it’s possible that more hamsters than just the ones at that store have covid. Testing every single hamster across Hong Kong would be unfeasable. They took the “better safe than sorry” approach and while it is very sad, I can’t condemn them for that.

 

Actually, you are running on information that is about 2 years old. Covid was definitely manmade and funded for the virus research lab in Wuhan, that kind of research is easier to hide in a country that cares nothing for its people. The documentation proving what kind of research was being done and came from that lab and who funded it is all over the internet now. They were doing research on bat corona viruses at one of the most advanced labs in the world where the virus began to spread, where their own scientists got sick from a mysterious illness in late 2019. Anyone that still believes that it came from a meat market where they were eating bats, I have a bridge to sell you lol

 

and the only thing that gave them any deniability what so ever is the fact that they were using techniques that were so advanced, they didn't have the slice and dice traces that they used to leave behind on 20 year old virus research. It's kind of like the world of biologics, you used to use artificial materials to create biologics and now they use organic materials harvested from human bodies that are more easily integrated, less rejected, and once used, you can't tell the difference from what was there and what they added.

 

Chinese people aren't the problem, their government is. If you can't distinguish between a government doing bad things and it's people, that's your problem.

 

Also, how is it ok to kill someone/something because they may or may not spread a disease? All kindergartners would be euthanized if the only criteria is that they spread disease to others. I don't see where the evidence is that the hamsters spread the disease more than the humans that came in or out of the store.

 

Just found this online

 

"...medical authorities worldwide agree that the risk of animals spreading COVID-19 to people is low."

 

post that it came from https://www.instagram.com/p/CY59bCLPwBC/

 

As upsetting as this news was to read, I understand why it was done. I have a baby and a 7 year old. If I got a hamster as a family pet and it turned out that it infected my kids, but especially my baby, with covid, i would have been livid. Hong Kong has not had a Delta variant outbreak in a while and those hamsters were carrying that specific variant - hong Kong put a lot of measures to effectively lower the number of cases and even almost completely get rid of the Delta variant. Letting those hamsters be spread between thousands of households and risk another outbreak would have been unacceptable.

I am sure this decision was not made lightly but we cannot possibly think that wasting valuable resources testing thousands of hamsters is the way to go.

I do not agree with mass culling of animals, but in this case what is the alternative? It would be so naive to expect anything else other than what is happening right now.

It is done for the benefit of tens of thousands of families - preventing death and lifelong effects of covid of so so many.

omg ik some of u think its their only choice but this just restores some of my fate of humanity

[Kikya]

omg ik some of u think its their only choice but this just restores some of my fate of humanity

Omg those poor hammies, I wish I could donate supplies to these brave women. This is sick...

The humans probably infected the hamsters not the other way around.

[borkborkham]

Hong Kong resident here   . English is not my native language, sorry for bad English.

 

I personally think it's more of a blaming covid on others. Recently in Beijing, there are individual omicron cases, and the government blamed it on delivery packages from North America, despite it being near impossible for covid to spread through objects.

 

anyway, I once bought things from the shop that had the covid outbreak (Little Boss), and My current hamster is purchased from another shop that's like 5 minute walking distance from Little boss, on Dec 14. So idk, I might have saved her from being culled. 

 

I don't think its ethical to seize pets from owners. I can't imagine how sad I'll be if mine was killed. Now I just hope that they won't decide to change the date from dec 22 to something earlier (for more control). They are pretty harsh on covid controls. Theres only 7 daily covid cases, and they got so scared they decided to shut down schools. I'll be attending online classes starting from monday.

[ChloesCritters]

Hong Kong resident here   . English is not my native language, sorry for bad English.

 

I personally think it's more of a blaming covid on others. Recently in Beijing, there are individual omicron cases, and the government blamed it on delivery packages from North America, despite it being near impossible for covid to spread through objects.

 

anyway, I once bought things from the shop that had the covid outbreak (Little Boss), and My current hamster is purchased from another shop that's like 5 minute walking distance from Little boss, on Dec 14. So idk, I might have saved her from being culled. 

 

I don't think its ethical to seize pets from owners. I can't imagine how sad I'll be if mine was killed. Now I just hope that they won't decide to change the date from dec 22 to something earlier (for more control). They are pretty harsh on covid controls. Theres only 7 daily covid cases, and they got so scared they decided to shut down schools. I'll be attending online classes starting from monday.

its ok, youur english is great 

Edited by ChloesCritters, 21 January 2022 - 05:45 PM.

[Lillias]

Per the video, it seems like they are concerned because the hamsters were imported. They should have quarantined them before selling them. But I strongly suspect they were exposed to Covid at the store, since only a small portion tested positive.

 

Also, if hamsters that were purchased in December had Covid, it would likely have run its course by now. If they were a danger, their owners would have already gotten sick.

Furthermore, this order includes other species, like chinchillas and rabbits, even though the ones from the store all tested negative.

 

The South China Morning Post says the animals will be tested before euthanization. The animals at the store were killed, even though most of them tested negative.

 

 

 

HK killed these hamsters because there were some hamsters from a shop that had covid-19. They blame the hamster for spreading it to the worker and customer. When i'm pretty sure its the customer or worker who spread it... I have heard that some families have been forced to give up their hamsters. They don't deserve this its not like u would kill a dog because it had covid ):

 

I'm happy to hear ur opinions

Covid enforcers in China have killed dogs and cats belonging to people who tested positive. It hasn't been reported on a mass scale, so I'm hoping they are isolated incidents.

 

 

The mink cull in Denmark - the mass graves are proving to be too shallow, which sounds like a massive health risk, especially for wildlife.

Edited by Lillias, 21 January 2022 - 06:44 PM.

[randomhamsterpersonn]

omg ik some of u think its their only choice but this just restores some of my fate of humanity

 

I am so happy and proud of those girls.

On another note, touching on what one of them said, the fact that hamsters that tested negative were still sent for euthanasia is absolutely horrible. What's going to happen next? Any pets look like they might have covid are going to be murdered? Ugh.