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Posted 11 February 2021 - 11:24 AM

Foreword 


So lately, a lot of people have been asking about rabbits as pets! I thought that this would be a good tool for anyone thinking about getting rabbits. In this guide I will cover housing, feeding, interaction, pairing, and basically everything else when it comes to bunnies! For more information on rabbits go check out my YouTube channel where I post every Sunday. 


Housing 


     Housing is a very tricky subject when it comes to bunnies. Of course, never, ever, ever, house your rabbit outside. This is for many reasons such as; weather, predators, disconnection, insects, and the list goes on. So please, please, get a stuffed animal if you want to keep your rabbit outside. 


     Moving on, inside housing for a pair of rabbits must be at least 16 sq feet, so 4 x 4, or 8 x 2. Bigger is always better or course though! Some good examples of cages include;

 ex-pens

Ex-pens are exercise pens that vary in size and heights. Ex-pens can be bought off of amazon or your local pet-store. They cost about 30-40 dollars. You will need to get a pen that is at least 36” in height so that your bunny cannot jump out. 

 c&c grid cages

C&C grid cages are great enclosures because you can make it any size or shape as long as you have enough grids. To make this enclosure you simply ziptie the grids together and you can also fashion a door. C&C grids can be bought at Walmart, Target, Amazon, and many other stores depending on your area. 


DIY cages 

DIY cages are great options if you are handy with tools because you can make them as big as you want. A simple DIY cage is chicken wire and wood. 


Free Roaming 

Free roaming your rabbits is where your bunnies live free roaming in a room or your whole house. I highly recommend this for multiple reasons. For example, rabbits have a lot of energy and will bar chew if kept in small enclosures. Also, having a free roam rabbit creates a stronger bond between your rabbits and you. If you cannot free roam due to personal reasons (ie, you have a dog and cannot keep the buns and dog separate, you do not own your home, etc.) then keeping your rabbit in a suitable, large, enclosure is a-ok. 

Bonded or Single?


Whether one rabbit can live by themselves is a highly debated topic. In my opinion, I think rabbits need to be kept with one other rabbit. 


     A good example of keeping a single rabbit is the youtuber Lennon the Bunny. Lennon is a spayed female rabbit who lives free roamed in her owner's apartment. Her owner also works from home and when she does go out she usually takes Lennon with her. If you live a similar life, keeping a single rabbit may be ok. Still I highly recommend having two rabbits because rabbits are very social animals and can become deeply depressed and sad when kept alone. 


     If you have tried bonding your single rabbit multiple times with no success, first double check if your two rabbits are spayed and neutered, you have waited at least 4 weeks before starting the bonding process after your rabbits got spayed/neutered, and that you have tried bonding for at least 3 months. If you have gone through the bonding process multiple times with multiple rabbits, your rabbit may be one of the rare buns who prefers to be alone. 


     In my experience, I started off with my one rabbit Binky, a spayed female rabbit. She was kept alone for the first 6 months I had her. She quickly became depressed and antisocial. I soon realized that she needed a friend! Ever since I got my second rabbit, Bugs (a neutered male bunny) she has never been happier and they are always right by each other. So I would highly recommend two rabbits. 


Litterbox


     If you didn’t know, rabbits can be litterbox trained once they are spayed/neutered. This makes cleaning much easier and free roaming possible! Covered litter boxes have pros as well as cons the same as open litter boxes. Also, you need to put your rabbit’s hay in the litter box because rabbits will eat and poop at the same time.  


Covered Litter box 

~ Skittish rabbits (like my boy Bugs) do better when they can feel more protected and covered

~They need to be cleaned out more to avoid too much of a smell. 

~Some rabbits may go to the bathroom on the top rather than inside

~You don’t need to see their waste and smell it as much


Open Litter boxes

~ You can use a hay feeder

~The smell and sight of the waste is more in the open



Hay Feeders

Hay feeders/bags/racks are used to hold the hay for your rabbit(s) to eat out of. Whether you use the hay holder or just put the hay into the litter box, is entirely up to you.  


Feeding 

Rabbit’s diet consists of 80% hay, 10% leafy greens/veggies, 5% pellets, and 5% treats. 


Hay

Hay is extremely important in a rabbit’s diet and your rabbit needs unlimited amounts of it. The most common type of hay is timothy hay, this hay is pretty rough and course which is good for wearing down your rabbit’s teeth. Botanical hay and orchard grass hay make great treat hays and are much softer than timothy. 


Leafy Greens 

For my rabbits, I feed them one salad a day that consists of two cups of different lettuces. I also provide bell peppers, celery, and a bunch of different veggies every time they get their salad. 


Pellets 

Pellets are not necessary in a rabbit’s diet but always check with your vet before removing them from your bun’s diet. My rabbits get one tablespoon of pellets each, every morning and night. 


Miscellaneous


I wanted to point out how much work rabbits are because a lot of people adopt them thinking they will be cute and easy pets. The reality is quite the opposite though. For example, my rabbits have chewed through multiple chargers and headphones, ripped out lots of carpet, and I have gone through multiple cages until I realized that my rabbits would always chew on the bars of a cage until they were free. Adopting a rabbit into your family is a long time commitment and they are also a lot of money. When getting a rabbit think everything through and be prepared to reorder your priorities. 

 

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Posted 11 February 2021 - 11:27 AM

This is really helpful! I was wondering when someone would make a recent one, thank you!!!!



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Posted 11 February 2021 - 11:50 AM

This is really helpful! I was wondering when someone would make a recent one, thank you!!!!

Of course! Thank you so much! If you are wanting a bun and have further questions feel free to PM me <3



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Posted 11 February 2021 - 12:07 PM

Of course! Thank you so much! If you are wanting a bun and have further questions feel free to PM me <3

You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day >:((

thank you! I've been wanting some buns recently and started doing tons of research! I bet you'll be a lot of help when it gets to rabbits :)
Thanks!!!!


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Posted 11 February 2021 - 01:27 PM

 

Cool! I also wanted to add that some bunnies have aggression and can't be bonded. 

Also, even if you stay at home all day, I still don't think you can keep your bunny alone, just because human to bunny interactions are different from bunny to bunny interactions.

:P Overall, very helpful! I'm thinking about getting bunnies so thank you!


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Posted 11 February 2021 - 01:33 PM

i think ive watched your ¨great hamster cages¨ video before... nice channel! and good helpful post for people new to researching rabbits.



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Posted 11 February 2021 - 08:35 PM

Foreword 


So lately, a lot of people have been asking about rabbits as pets! I thought that this would be a good tool for anyone thinking about getting rabbits. In this guide I will cover housing, feeding, interaction, pairing, and basically everything else when it comes to bunnies! For more information on rabbits go check out my YouTube channel where I post every Sunday. 


Housing 


     Housing is a very tricky subject when it comes to bunnies. Of course, never, ever, ever, house your rabbit outside. This is for many reasons such as; weather, predators, disconnection, insects, and the list goes on. So please, please, get a stuffed animal if you want to keep your rabbit outside. 


     Moving on, inside housing for a pair of rabbits must be at least 16 sq feet, so 4 x 4, or 8 x 2. Bigger is always better or course though! Some good examples of cages include;

 ex-pens

Ex-pens are exercise pens that vary in size and heights. Ex-pens can be bought off of amazon or your local pet-store. They cost about 30-40 dollars. You will need to get a pen that is at least 36” in height so that your bunny cannot jump out. 

 c&c grid cages

C&C grid cages are great enclosures because you can make it any size or shape as long as you have enough grids. To make this enclosure you simply ziptie the grids together and you can also fashion a door. C&C grids can be bought at Walmart, Target, Amazon, and many other stores depending on your area. 


DIY cages 

DIY cages are great options if you are handy with tools because you can make them as big as you want. A simple DIY cage is chicken wire and wood. 


Free Roaming 

Free roaming your rabbits is where your bunnies live free roaming in a room or your whole house. I highly recommend this for multiple reasons. For example, rabbits have a lot of energy and will bar chew if kept in small enclosures. Also, having a free roam rabbit creates a stronger bond between your rabbits and you. If you cannot free roam due to personal reasons (ie, you have a dog and cannot keep the buns and dog separate, you do not own your home, etc.) then keeping your rabbit in a suitable, large, enclosure is a-ok. 

Bonded or Single?


Whether one rabbit can live by themselves is a highly debated topic. In my opinion, I think rabbits need to be kept with one other rabbit. 


     A good example of keeping a single rabbit is the youtuber Lennon the Bunny. Lennon is a spayed female rabbit who lives free roamed in her owner's apartment. Her owner also works from home and when she does go out she usually takes Lennon with her. If you live a similar life, keeping a single rabbit may be ok. Still I highly recommend having two rabbits because rabbits are very social animals and can become deeply depressed and sad when kept alone. 


     If you have tried bonding your single rabbit multiple times with no success, first double check if your two rabbits are spayed and neutered, you have waited at least 4 weeks before starting the bonding process after your rabbits got spayed/neutered, and that you have tried bonding for at least 3 months. If you have gone through the bonding process multiple times with multiple rabbits, your rabbit may be one of the rare buns who prefers to be alone. 


     In my experience, I started off with my one rabbit Binky, a spayed female rabbit. She was kept alone for the first 6 months I had her. She quickly became depressed and antisocial. I soon realized that she needed a friend! Ever since I got my second rabbit, Bugs (a neutered male bunny) she has never been happier and they are always right by each other. So I would highly recommend two rabbits. 


Litterbox


     If you didn’t know, rabbits can be litterbox trained once they are spayed/neutered. This makes cleaning much easier and free roaming possible! Covered litter boxes have pros as well as cons the same as open litter boxes. Also, you need to put your rabbit’s hay in the litter box because rabbits will eat and poop at the same time.  


Covered Litter box 

~ Skittish rabbits (like my boy Bugs) do better when they can feel more protected and covered

~They need to be cleaned out more to avoid too much of a smell. 

~Some rabbits may go to the bathroom on the top rather than inside

~You don’t need to see their waste and smell it as much


Open Litter boxes

~ You can use a hay feeder

~The smell and sight of the waste is more in the open



Hay Feeders

Hay feeders/bags/racks are used to hold the hay for your rabbit(s) to eat out of. Whether you use the hay holder or just put the hay into the litter box, is entirely up to you.  


Feeding 

Rabbit’s diet consists of 80% hay, 10% leafy greens/veggies, 5% pellets, and 5% treats. 


Hay

Hay is extremely important in a rabbit’s diet and your rabbit needs unlimited amounts of it. The most common type of hay is timothy hay, this hay is pretty rough and course which is good for wearing down your rabbit’s teeth. Botanical hay and orchard grass hay make great treat hays and are much softer than timothy. 


Leafy Greens 

For my rabbits, I feed them one salad a day that consists of two cups of different lettuces. I also provide bell peppers, celery, and a bunch of different veggies every time they get their salad. 


Pellets 

Pellets are not necessary in a rabbit’s diet but always check with your vet before removing them from your bun’s diet. My rabbits get one tablespoon of pellets each, every morning and night. 


Miscellaneous


I wanted to point out how much work rabbits are because a lot of people adopt them thinking they will be cute and easy pets. The reality is quite the opposite though. For example, my rabbits have chewed through multiple chargers and headphones, ripped out lots of carpet, and I have gone through multiple cages until I realized that my rabbits would always chew on the bars of a cage until they were free. Adopting a rabbit into your family is a long time commitment and they are also a lot of money. When getting a rabbit think everything through and be prepared to reorder your priorities. 

Hey! First of all, great post; thank you for putting all of this together! I definetly agree with most of what you said, though there are some points I do have differing thoughts on.

 

I know this is going to be *very* controversial, but I think keeping bunnies outside is perfectly safe depending on where you live and how it's set up, and, in some cases, even the best option. I live in Germany so rabbit care is quite different here, though it's generally agreed that outdoor housing is often the most natural and enriching way to house bunnies if done properly; this, however, also depends on climate, the security of the cage, etc.

 

When it comes to enclosures, the risk of predators attacking the animals is low if the cage is secured properly; that is,  if the mesh is strong and small enough not to let them through, if there is also mesh or some type of roof on the top, etc. Of course these animals would also have to be vaccinated (no anti vaxx bunns here! :slaphappy: :rotfl:), and would need an insulated shelter to go in as well. Besides that, it's also important that bunnies are NEVER kept alone when living outside (or ever), which leads me to my next point.

 

In Germany, it is seen as cruel to keep bunnies alone, which may sound like a strong statement, but is one I absolutely agree with. Bunnies are very social animals, so depriving them of companionship is absolutely not something that should be done, and to be honest, I really don't understand why it's so commonly deemed as OK? With the example of the YouTuber you gave, I'd have to respectfully disagree; humans are by no means ever enough to compensate for the absence of another rabbit, and I think it's a shame that she thinks it is. Bunnies need to be able to play with another animal of their own kind, and that's just not something that can be done with humans. I also just wanted to note that her taking her bunny with her when she goes places is a huge no-no. I don't mean to come off as rude, but when you bring an animal out of their normal environment you're subjecting them to huge amounts of potential stress.

 

Other than those two points, though, I absolutely agree with what you said in your post, especially about how much work they are! :veryhappy:

 

Quick edit: here are some outdoor enclosures as examples: https://www.kaninchenwiese.de/haltung/aussenhaltung/aussenhaltung-fotos/


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Posted 11 February 2021 - 11:14 PM

Foreword 


So lately, a lot of people have been asking about rabbits as pets! I thought that this would be a good tool for anyone thinking about getting rabbits. In this guide I will cover housing, feeding, interaction, pairing, and basically everything else when it comes to bunnies! For more information on rabbits go check out my YouTube channel where I post every Sunday. 


Housing 


     Housing is a very tricky subject when it comes to bunnies. Of course, never, ever, ever, house your rabbit outside. This is for many reasons such as; weather, predators, disconnection, insects, and the list goes on. So please, please, get a stuffed animal if you want to keep your rabbit outside. 

4x2 is minimum for 1 rabbit  if you are keeping alone due to inabilty to bond or other reasons. 4x4 is recommend for 1 rabbit.

     Moving on, inside housing for a pair of rabbits must be at least 16 sq feet, so 4 x 4, or 8 x 2. Bigger is always better or course though! Some good examples of cages include;

 ex-pens

Ex-pens are exercise pens that vary in size and heights. Ex-pens can be bought off of amazon or your local pet-store. They cost about 30-40 dollars. You will need to get a pen that is at least 36” in height so that your bunny cannot jump out. 

i do believe the price for xpens generally varies in different countries based on availibility. for example, here they cost about $90 for a 36" high.

 c&c grid cages

C&C grid cages are great enclosures because you can make it any size or shape as long as you have enough grids. To make this enclosure you simply ziptie the grids together and you can also fashion a door. C&C grids can be bought at Walmart, Target, Amazon, and many other stores depending on your area. 

note to add: make sure that the c&c crids that you buy are the ones with 1" bar spacing. Many rabbits have been known to get their head stuck in ones with 3" or larger spacing.


DIY cages 

DIY cages are great options if you are handy with tools because you can make them as big as you want. A simple DIY cage is chicken wire and wood. 


Free Roaming 

Free roaming your rabbits is where your bunnies live free roaming in a room or your whole house. I highly recommend this for multiple reasons. For example, rabbits have a lot of energy and will bar chew if kept in small enclosures. Also, having a free roam rabbit creates a stronger bond between your rabbits and you. If you cannot free roam due to personal reasons (ie, you have a dog and cannot keep the buns and dog separate, you do not own your home, etc.) then keeping your rabbit in a suitable, large, enclosure is a-ok. 

 

i do think playtime/out of cgae time should be mentioned :)

If the rabbit(s) is/are being housed in a cage, they should have AT LEAST 4 hours of playtime in a rabbit-proof area that has at least 36 sq feet and good flooring. Playtime would also benifit your rabbit most in the morning and evening, as they are crepescular by nature and have most energy during those times.

 

Bonded or Single?


Whether one rabbit can live by themselves is a highly debated topic. In my opinion, I think rabbits need to be kept with one other rabbit. 


     A good example of keeping a single rabbit is the youtuber Lennon the Bunny. Lennon is a spayed female rabbit who lives free roamed in her owner's apartment. Her owner also works from home and when she does go out she usually takes Lennon with her. If you live a similar life, keeping a single rabbit may be ok. Still I highly recommend having two rabbits because rabbits are very social animals and can become deeply depressed and sad when kept alone. 


     If you have tried bonding your single rabbit multiple times with no success, first double check if your two rabbits are spayed and neutered, you have waited at least 4 weeks before starting the bonding process after your rabbits got spayed/neutered, and that you have tried bonding for at least 3 months. If you have gone through the bonding process multiple times with multiple rabbits, your rabbit may be one of the rare buns who prefers to be alone. 


     In my experience, I started off with my one rabbit Binky, a spayed female rabbit. She was kept alone for the first 6 months I had her. She quickly became depressed and antisocial. I soon realized that she needed a friend! Ever since I got my second rabbit, Bugs (a neutered male bunny) she has never been happier and they are always right by each other. So I would highly recommend two rabbits. 

 

also keep in mind that keeping two bunnies is usually cleaner, less of a mess and they are less destructive because they have each other! additonally if your bunny has been failed to bond due to agression, they may just be telling you they want to be alone. my rabbit has been tried to be bonded at least 10 times, she is spayed yet still showed agression. If you are keeping a single rabbit, make sure to spend AT LEAST 4 hours a day to spend time with them. You don't have to be petting them continously ofc, but just sit with htem and provide company.


Litterbox


     If you didn’t know, rabbits can be litterbox trained once they are spayed/neutered. This makes cleaning much easier and free roaming possible! Covered litter boxes have pros as well as cons the same as open litter boxes. Also, you need to put your rabbit’s hay in the litter box because rabbits will eat and poop at the same time.  


Covered Litter box 

~ Skittish rabbits (like my boy Bugs) do better when they can feel more protected and covered

~They need to be cleaned out more to avoid too much of a smell. 

~Some rabbits may go to the bathroom on the top rather than inside

~You don’t need to see their waste and smell it as much


Open Litter boxes

~ You can use a hay feeder

~The smell and sight of the waste is more in the open

personally, I would not reccommend covered litterboxes. Rabbits have very senstive noses, and the ventilation in covered litterboxes is usually a huge problem. also, they only have one enterance/exit which is a huge problem for rabbits considering that they are prey animals. they need at least 2 exits and enterances for them to feel safe. instead of a covered litterbox, I would say to cover it with nic grids and a blanket, so ventiliation will be adqueate and there are two exits.


Hay Feeders

Hay feeders/bags/racks are used to hold the hay for your rabbit(s) to eat out of. Whether you use the hay holder or just put the hay into the litter box, is entirely up to you.  


Feeding 

Rabbit’s diet consists of 80% hay, 10% leafy greens/veggies, 5% pellets, and 5% treats. 


Hay

Hay is extremely important in a rabbit’s diet and your rabbit needs unlimited amounts of it. The most common type of hay is timothy hay, this hay is pretty rough and course which is good for wearing down your rabbit’s teeth. Botanical hay and orchard grass hay make great treat hays and are much softer than timothy. 

i would actually disagree about the fact it is rough and coarse because 3rd cut is very soft, while first cut is much more coarse


Leafy Greens 

For my rabbits, I feed them one salad a day that consists of two cups of different lettuces. I also provide bell peppers, celery, and a bunch of different veggies every time they get their salad. 

maybe mentions that 1 cup of veggies per 2lb of body weight is a good amount.

Pellets 

Pellets are not necessary in a rabbit’s diet but always check with your vet before removing them from your bun’s diet. My rabbits get one tablespoon of pellets each, every morning and night. 

maybe mention that 1/4 cup per 5lb of body weight is a good amount

and mention that 1tbsp of treats per 4lb of body weight is good

Miscellaneous


I wanted to point out how much work rabbits are because a lot of people adopt them thinking they will be cute and easy pets. The reality is quite the opposite though. For example, my rabbits have chewed through multiple chargers and headphones, ripped out lots of carpet, and I have gone through multiple cages until I realized that my rabbits would always chew on the bars of a cage until they were free. Adopting a rabbit into your family is a long time commitment and they are also a lot of money. When getting a rabbit think everything through and be prepared to reorder your priorities. 

i added a few of my thoughts above in bold



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Posted 11 February 2021 - 11:26 PM

 

 

Quick edit: here are some outdoor enclosures as examples: https://www.kaninchenwiese.de/haltung/aussenhaltung/aussenhaltung-fotos/

some of these aren't even good.

they are open out to the air, which means in colder times/warmer times there isn't a stable temperature. I would say a good outdoor housing would be an insulated strong shed that has a heating unit for colder months and cooling unit for warmer months.

 

I personally wouldn't house a rabbit or more outside because you wound't house your brother, sister, cousin, friend outside, so why would you do so with a rabbit? they should be part of the family.



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Posted 12 February 2021 - 12:42 AM

Cool! I also wanted to add that some bunnies have aggression and can't be bonded. 

Also, even if you stay at home all day, I still don't think you can keep your bunny alone, just because human to bunny interactions are different from bunny to bunny interactions. Yes yes I definitly agree with this. Some people are very sentivie about pairs vs bonded so I thought I would put this in. I definitly think rabbits need to be in pairs unless they are too old to be bonded or they are very agressvie. 

:P Overall, very helpful! I'm thinking about getting bunnies so thank you!

 

 

i think ive watched your ¨great hamster cages¨ video before... nice channel! and good helpful post for people new to researching rabbits. Thank you so so much!! 

 

 

Hey! First of all, great post; thank you for putting all of this together! I definetly agree with most of what you said, though there are some points I do have differing thoughts on. Thank you very much! 

 

I know this is going to be *very* controversial, but I think keeping bunnies outside is perfectly safe depending on where you live and how it's set up, and, in some cases, even the best option. I live in Germany so rabbit care is quite different here, though it's generally agreed that outdoor housing is often the most natural and enriching way to house bunnies if done properly; this, however, also depends on climate, the security of the cage, etc.

 

When it comes to enclosures, the risk of predators attacking the animals is low if the cage is secured properly; that is,  if the mesh is strong and small enough not to let them through, if there is also mesh or some type of roof on the top, etc. Of course these animals would also have to be vaccinated (no anti vaxx bunns here! :slaphappy: :rotfl:), and would need an insulated shelter to go in as well. Besides that, it's also important that bunnies are NEVER kept alone when living outside (or ever), which leads me to my next point. Rabbits can die of fright so making a sucure cage would not insure their safety. 

 

In Germany, it is seen as cruel to keep bunnies alone, which may sound like a strong statement, but is one I absolutely agree with. Bunnies are very social animals, so depriving them of companionship is absolutely not something that should be done, and to be honest, I really don't understand why it's so commonly deemed as OK? With the example of the YouTuber you gave, I'd have to respectfully disagree; humans are by no means ever enough to compensate for the absence of another rabbit, and I think it's a shame that she thinks it is. Bunnies need to be able to play with another animal of their own kind, and that's just not something that can be done with humans. I also just wanted to note that her taking her bunny with her when she goes places is a huge no-no. I don't mean to come off as rude, but when you bring an animal out of their normal environment you're subjecting them to huge amounts of potential stress. I definitly agree but some rabbits are way to agressive to be bonded and some buns also are too old and sick to be bonded. I do think you should always try to have two rabbits. 

 

Other than those two points, though, I absolutely agree with what you said in your post, especially about how much work they are! :veryhappy:

 

Quick edit: here are some outdoor enclosures as examples: https://www.kaninchenwiese.de/haltung/aussenhaltung/aussenhaltung-fotos/

 

 

i added a few of my thoughts above in bold I defnitly agree and I completly forgot about playtime!! I really like all the things you said! 

 

 

some of these aren't even good.

they are open out to the air, which means in colder times/warmer times there isn't a stable temperature. I would say a good outdoor housing would be an insulated strong shed that has a heating unit for colder months and cooling unit for warmer months. Agreed!! 

 

I personally wouldn't house a rabbit or more outside because you wound't house your brother, sister, cousin, friend outside, so why would you do so with a rabbit? they should be part of the family. Yes yes yes



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Posted 12 February 2021 - 01:14 AM

some of these aren't even good.

they are open out to the air, which means in colder times/warmer times there isn't a stable temperature. I would say a good outdoor housing would be an insulated strong shed that has a heating unit for colder months and cooling unit for warmer months.

 

I personally wouldn't house a rabbit or more outside because you wound't house your brother, sister, cousin, friend outside, so why would you do so with a rabbit? they should be part of the family.

Yes, not all of them are great, but the website was linked to show some examples of outdoor enclosures. All of them do, however, have some sort of insulated area / shed, but they are sometimes attached to some sort of pen. Like I said in my post, an insulated area is super important, and is something that is always deemed a must have when housing outdoors.

 

I understand what you mean with your last point, though have an issue with humanizing bunnies. Bunnies are not like humans in that they don't need to live indoors (given conditions are right), but rather want to run around, explore, dig, etc. And if you can provide a better, more enriching life in an outdoor enclosure, why would you keep them inside instead? Truth is, many people have much more space to provide really large enclosures when the bunnies are house outdoors, so depriving them of that because they 'should be part of the family' is in my mind not really giving them what's best. They don't need to be cuddled 24/7 to live enriched lives.


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Posted 12 February 2021 - 01:19 AM

 

Not really sure how to reply within the text haha so I'm just going to do it like this!

 

' I definitly agree but some rabbits are way to agressive to be bonded and some buns also are too old and sick to be bonded. I do think you should always try to have two rabbits. '

 

The big issue I have with this very common argument is the fact that it normalizes making excuses to keep bunnies alone. Yes, there are some extreme cases, but that does not mean we should call keeping rabbits alone OK, and always adding 'buts' makes it easy for people to justify keeping their bunnies alone. To me, it's kind of like saying 'hamsters should live solitary lives but some live together without fighting', and while it's a valid statement, it diminishes the importance of putting in the effort to find your bunny at least one friend. What I see so often is people saying that they only have one bunny because their pet is aggressive, even though they only attempted to bond them with once or twice.



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Posted 12 February 2021 - 01:39 AM

Not really sure how to reply within the text haha so I'm just going to do it like this!

 

' I definitly agree but some rabbits are way to agressive to be bonded and some buns also are too old and sick to be bonded. I do think you should always try to have two rabbits. '

 

The big issue I have with this very common argument is the fact that it normalizes making excuses to keep bunnies alone. Yes, there are some extreme cases, but that does not mean we should call keeping rabbits alone OK, and always adding 'buts' makes it easy for people to justify keeping their bunnies alone. To me, it's kind of like saying 'hamsters should live solitary lives but some live together without fighting', and while it's a valid statement, it diminishes the importance of putting in the effort to find your bunny at least one friend. What I see so often is people saying that they only have one bunny because their pet is aggressive, even though they only attempted to bond them with once or twice.

Ok I am sorry that I did not put that in there. ajuniceuhamsters is a great example of a solitary rabbit though. I believe that they own one rabbit named Strawberry (correct me if I am wrong). They have tried bonding their bun at least 8 times with no success. 



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Posted 12 February 2021 - 02:51 AM

Not really sure how to reply within the text haha so I'm just going to do it like this!

 

' I definitly agree but some rabbits are way to agressive to be bonded and some buns also are too old and sick to be bonded. I do think you should always try to have two rabbits. '

 

The big issue I have with this very common argument is the fact that it normalizes making excuses to keep bunnies alone. Yes, there are some extreme cases, but that does not mean we should call keeping rabbits alone OK, and always adding 'buts' makes it easy for people to justify keeping their bunnies alone. To me, it's kind of like saying 'hamsters should live solitary lives but some live together without fighting', and while it's a valid statement, it diminishes the importance of putting in the effort to find your bunny at least one friend. What I see so often is people saying that they only have one bunny because their pet is aggressive, even though they only attempted to bond them with once or twice.

 

Ok I am sorry that I did not put that in there. ajuniceuhamsters is a great example of a solitary rabbit though. I believe that they own one rabbit named Strawberry (correct me if I am wrong). They have tried bonding their bun at least 8 times with no success. 

yea. my rabbit, odyssey is a spayed female. she has failed to be bonded over 10 times, and all the potential bonding partners were all fixed as well. she showed continous signs of agression towards the other rabbits. even though she showed signs of agression, we did try to go forth with some of the better partners, from just 'bunny dating' to 'carrier bonding in car'. we immediately had to seperate them when they were in the car, my rabbit almost tore a hole in the other rabbit's ear.

 

I do think it is alright for a rabbit to be solitary, but it depends on MANY factors, including but not limited to the following.

-continuos agression displayed to many rabbits

-old age and young age mix (it isnt ideal to have an older rabbit 8 years or older with a rabbit that younger than life expectancy because while they may be happily bonded for a while, the old one will eventually die and rabbits can die of greif. this happens a lot in some rabbits. they may not even die of greif, they could live but they will still be sad and remmeber the rabbit they were bonded with.)

-sickness, this is self explanoatory if it is conatigous. if it isnt contagious, and the rabbit is relatively old and expected to die from it, than they also shouldn't be bonded see above.

-too old to be spayed/neutured. you never want to house two or more unfixed rabbits together for reasons like agression, babies and more



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Posted 03 October 2021 - 05:10 PM

The past period of time, I started to think constantly about getting a pet. As I informed myself a lot by reding on the Internet, I found out that more and more people become owners of rabbits. I love everything about them so I decided that a rabbit is the perfect match for me. Your experience and explanation are very well-done, so thanks for it. It occurred to me that I knew everything about rabbit care but it seems I was wrong)) Also, fun fact did you know do bunnies sleep with their eyes open? If you don’t believe me search it up and you’ll convince yourself.


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