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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:08 AM

Hello everybody! I know I could join a Chicken forum, but I will see if I can get answers here first. Me and my sister are interested in getting laying hens next year, probably 3 or 4 of them. I have a lot of questions, so please answer what you can! :)

 

1. What is a good grit for laying hens? I have heard many different things, and it's confusing me, so tell me, what do you use for grit? We would like to get adult chickens, if that's possible.

 

2. We don't need a rooster, right? We're not looking to breed them...Is 3 or 4 hens...Is there any problem with that?

 

3. Aspen shavings are okay for nesting, right? And we have a really big coop, like 8 by 7 feet, or something. Do I need to section some of it off or anything if there's territorial issues? (I know I know nothing about chickens, but I'm learning XD)

 

4. I've seen lots of different nesting boxes. I've seen where it's one big box with no dividers, and then fancy boxes that are stacked and looks like a dollhouse, with dividers. What is the best nesting box?

 

I might come up with more questions, so be prepared! :P






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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:38 AM

Hi! I don't have any experience with chickens but I plan to live on a homestead in the future and I love Becky's Homestead on Youtube :) She has a lot of awesome chicken videos!


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:45 AM

We used to own a large flock for a good 3 years. Chickens are AWESOME pets. But you have to be prepared for the completely random illnesses they'll have. They also die In the most unusual and gruesome ways. One thing every chicken owner should be aware of. Something we had to learn the hard way is chickens are cannibals. There drawn to each other blood, and will peck a chicken to death if they have an open would.

1. I don't exactly know what you're talking about. Do you mean chicken food? Orb is grit what you call it in the UK. If it is chicken food I can't really help because I only know good American chicken food. I would definitely advise getting full grown hens that will make things a lot easier. As long as you get them from the same seller I don't think you'll have a problem.

2. No reason for a rooster at all. Some people say that it makes the hen feel more protected, and lay better eggs. But we've had hens with and without a rooster and it doesn't make much difference. The minimum amount of chickens it 3 any less will fight and be lonely.

3. Aspen shavings are fine for shavings. Of you see any territorial behavior, like plucking feathers, head pecking, and chasing. Of course there is a little bit of this every day so chickens keep their ranks, just watch for excessive amounts. If our chickens ever got bullied we'd usually just put them in a wire pen so the other chickens could see them and keep them there for three days or so and then they would be fine again.

4. We've had nesting boxes with dividers and without. Definitely use dividers! Chickens like being alone while laying much more. We converted an old book shelf with little cubbies into a nesting box. Which all our hens loved.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:53 AM

We used to own a large flock for a good 3 years. Chickens are AWESOME pets. But you have to be prepared for the completely random illnesses they'll have. They also die In the most unusual and gruesome ways. One thing every chicken owner should be aware of. Something we had to learn the hard way is chickens are cannibals. There drawn to each other blood, and will peck a chicken to death if they have an open would.

1. I don't exactly know what you're talking about. Do you mean chicken food? Orb is grit what you call it in the UK. If it is chicken food I can't really help because I only know good American chicken food. I would definitely advise getting full grown hens that will make things a lot easier. As long as you get them from the same seller I don't think you'll have a problem.

2. No reason for a rooster at all. Some people say that it makes the hen feel more protected, and lay better eggs. But we've had hens with and without a rooster and it doesn't make much difference. The minimum amount of chickens it 3 any less will fight and be lonely.

3. Aspen shavings are fine for shavings. Of you see any territorial behavior, like plucking feathers, head pecking, and chasing. Of course there is a little bit of this every day so chickens keep their ranks, just watch for excessive amounts. If our chickens ever got bullied we'd usually just put them in a wire pen so the other chickens could see them and keep them there for three days or so and then they would be fine again.

4. We've had nesting boxes with dividers and without. Definitely use dividers! Chickens like being alone while laying much more. We converted an old book shelf with little cubbies into a nesting box. Which all our hens loved.


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Thank you for all the info! I'll have to let my sister know about all this stuff, though...cannibals? *Shudders*. And pecking to death? Like a big, deep cut, or a tiny scrape?

 

Thanks for everything else! From what I've read, grit is something you feed the chicken a couple times a week that they swallow. It stays in their stomach, and grinds the food down better to aid digestion. I just didn't know if it was optional, or what to feed :)



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:20 PM

Thank you for all the info! I'll have to let my sister know about all this stuff, though...cannibals? *Shudders*. And pecking to death? Like a big, deep cut, or a tiny scrape?
 
Thanks for everything else! From what I've read, grit is something you feed the chicken a couple times a week that they swallow. It stays in their stomach, and grinds the food down better to aid digestion. I just didn't know if it was optional, or what to feed :)

Honestly they'll peck at either. And then the smaller cut will become a bigger wound and so on and so forth.

I've fed grit and no grit. It didn't seem to make much difference. The eggs didn't taste better and chickens didn't lay more. So honestly I don't think grit is necessary.
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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:22 PM

Honestly they'll peck at either. And then the smaller cut will become a bigger wound and so on and so forth.

I've fed grit and no grit. It didn't seem to make much difference. The eggs didn't taste better and chickens didn't lay more. So honestly I don't think grit is necessary.

Okay! That's awesome with the grit!

 

Then I guess I have to separate them if one gets a cut?



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 04:46 AM

Okay! That's awesome with the grit!
 
Then I guess I have to separate them if one gets a cut?

Yeah that's what we always did.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 01:31 PM

Hello everybody! I know I could join a Chicken forum, but I will see if I can get answers here first. Me and my sister are interested in getting laying hens next year, probably 3 or 4 of them. I have a lot of questions, so please answer what you can! :)

 

1. What is a good grit for laying hens? I have heard many different things, and it's confusing me, so tell me, what do you use for grit? We would like to get adult chickens, if that's possible.

 

2. We don't need a rooster, right? We're not looking to breed them...Is 3 or 4 hens...Is there any problem with that?

 

3. Aspen shavings are okay for nesting, right? And we have a really big coop, like 8 by 7 feet, or something. Do I need to section some of it off or anything if there's territorial issues? (I know I know nothing about chickens, but I'm learning XD)

 

4. I've seen lots of different nesting boxes. I've seen where it's one big box with no dividers, and then fancy boxes that are stacked and looks like a dollhouse, with dividers. What is the best nesting box?

 

I might come up with more questions, so be prepared! :P

I got so excited when I saw this thread!!! If you didn't know, I looooooove CHICKENS!!!!!! So ask away! I could talk about chickens for hours and hours and hours and hours (you get the point :laughing). 

 

1. Grit can usually be just sand or dirt. If you are planning to give your chickens plenty of outdoor and free-ranging time it isn't necessary to provide grit, as they will find it themselves. If you are talking about food, the food size I like best is definitely the crumbles. My chickens love the crumbles. They seem to lay and eat the best when I feed them that size. The pellets my chickens don't seem to like as much. And the mash is just a total mess. XD Usually mash is sold for mainly chicks. Another good thing to put out is you might want to supplement their food with mealworms, oyster shell, scratch, etc. You might not need to give this to them if they have a really healthy food mix. Oyster shell helps give your hens a calcium boost for strong egg shells and healthy bones. Laying hens who don't get enough calcium can make thin shelled eggs, shell-less eggs, irregular shaped eggs, etc. Keep in mind too much calcium is hard on the chickens kidneys, and should be given in moderation. Mealworms give your hens a protein boost. It takes a lot of protein to make an egg. I usually give my chickens scratch just for something to have fun digging at and finding. I could go a lot more into nutrition, but this post is already getting long. :rotfl:

 

2. Roosters can make a flock safer and happier but, you do not need a rooster. Generally you only want a rooster if you have at least 9-10 hens. If you only have 3 or 4, the rooster could peck and try to mate with them way too much. This can be stressful and painful to the hen. The mating process is painful and involves pulling on the hen's neck feathers. 

 

3. Aspen shavings are fine! You can also use straw, hay, hemp shavings, pine shavings, dirt, and wood chips. There shouldn't be too much territorial issues if you have enough space per bird. The general recommendation is at least 10 square feet per bird, and they can live perfectly fine in that much space. I personally recommend at least 20 square feet per bird. I find it easier to keep the pecking order under control if they are all raised together since they were chicks. Although it can be done, it can be tricky to introduce newbies to an already developed flock. One thing I would do to keep more peace, is too have an unlimited food supply. Chickens won't really overeat and having limited food each day can just cause problems. You might want to take the food in at night though if you don't want birds or other small animals stealing the food. If the pecking is getting out of control (bald spots ((not when molting)), blood, feather pulling, etc) you should separate the one being picked on if she is injured. If the dominant hen just seems too power crazy, you can take her away from the rest of the flock for a day or two, and then return her. Then she will be considered a newbie and won't be at the top anymore. 

 

4. There really isn't a best nesting box. It really can be anything! You can do one of those fancy ones, or you can go the lazy way (which I did). I made my nesting boxes out of a bucket turned on its side. Some of them have a wood stand drilled to the bottom to keep from rolling away, and have a little wall at the entrance to keep the bedding in. The other nesting boxes are literally a bucket turned on its side, with just a little wood plank placed on the ground next to both sides to keep it from rolling away. LOL. I have also made a temporary box out of a cardboard box. Tomorrow I will take pictures, and show you my nesting boxes. :)

 

If you have any more questions at all, please ask!! I love chickens so much, and love talking about them. A chicken forum I would recommend is Backyard Chickens. You can also PM me with any questions! ;D


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 10:18 PM

I got so excited when I saw this thread!!! If you didn't know, I looooooove CHICKENS!!!!!! So ask away! I could talk about chickens for hours and hours and hours and hours (you get the point :laughing). 

 

1. Grit can usually be just sand or dirt. If you are planning to give your chickens plenty of outdoor and free-ranging time it isn't necessary to provide grit, as they will find it themselves. If you are talking about food, the food size I like best is definitely the crumbles. My chickens love the crumbles. They seem to lay and eat the best when I feed them that size. The pellets my chickens don't seem to like as much. And the mash is just a total mess. XD Usually mash is sold for mainly chicks. Another good thing to put out is you might want to supplement their food with mealworms, oyster shell, scratch, etc. You might not need to give this to them if they have a really healthy food mix. Oyster shell helps give your hens a calcium boost for strong egg shells and healthy bones. Laying hens who don't get enough calcium can make thin shelled eggs, shell-less eggs, irregular shaped eggs, etc. Keep in mind too much calcium is hard on the chickens kidneys, and should be given in moderation. Mealworms give your hens a protein boost. It takes a lot of protein to make an egg. I usually give my chickens scratch just for something to have fun digging at and finding. I could go a lot more into nutrition, but this post is already getting long. :rotfl:

 

2. Roosters can make a flock safer and happier but, you do not need a rooster. Generally you only want a rooster if you have at least 9-10 hens. If you only have 3 or 4, the rooster could peck and try to mate with them way too much. This can be stressful and painful to the hen. The mating process is painful and involves pulling on the hen's neck feathers. 

 

3. Aspen shavings are fine! You can also use straw, hay, hemp shavings, pine shavings, dirt, and wood chips. There shouldn't be too much territorial issues if you have enough space per bird. The general recommendation is at least 10 square feet per bird, and they can live perfectly fine in that much space. I personally recommend at least 20 square feet per bird. I find it easier to keep the pecking order under control if they are all raised together since they were chicks. Although it can be done, it can be tricky to introduce newbies to an already developed flock. One thing I would do to keep more peace, is too have an unlimited food supply. Chickens won't really overeat and having limited food each day can just cause problems. You might want to take the food in at night though if you don't want birds or other small animals stealing the food. If the pecking is getting out of control (bald spots ((not when molting)), blood, feather pulling, etc) you should separate the one being picked on if she is injured. If the dominant hen just seems too power crazy, you can take her away from the rest of the flock for a day or two, and then return her. Then she will be considered a newbie and won't be at the top anymore. 

 

4. There really isn't a best nesting box. It really can be anything! You can do one of those fancy ones, or you can go the lazy way (which I did). I made my nesting boxes out of a bucket turned on its side. Some of them have a wood stand drilled to the bottom to keep from rolling away, and have a little wall at the entrance to keep the bedding in. The other nesting boxes are literally a bucket turned on its side, with just a little wood plank placed on the ground next to both sides to keep it from rolling away. LOL. I have also made a temporary box out of a cardboard box. Tomorrow I will take pictures, and show you my nesting boxes. :)

 

If you have any more questions at all, please ask!! I love chickens so much, and love talking about them. A chicken forum I would recommend is Backyard Chickens. You can also PM me with any questions! ;D

Wow, thank you! We plan on giving them a lot of space outside, but not free-range because of our dog (Any tips, anybody?). We read online that the chicken wire has to be at least 6 feet, but our cousins lived here previously, and they never did 6 feet for their chickens. And they had like 40 hens, and a few roosters. LOTS of eggs XD. They had like 3-4 feet chicken wire. Is 6 feet necessary? What do you do?

 

About the roosters, that's great.

 

And about separating - just like build a small pen or something far from the other chickens? The chicken would need a shelter?

 

They also need roosts, right? My sister said they did...

 

I'll probably have more questions later, by the way XD

 

EDIT: I found some more questions, haha.

 

I was looking at crumble, and found this image:

 

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Is it accurate? And what is "layer?" Don't you just feed crumble from 6-8 weeks on?

 

I just don't understand this at all! XD,.

 

Link: https://patchtotable.com/best-type-of-chicken-feed/


Edited by Hippophile~, 13 October 2018 - 10:34 PM.


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Posted 15 October 2018 - 06:16 AM

Edit: Sorry double post :P 


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Posted 15 October 2018 - 06:35 AM

Do you mean 6 feet high? 6 feet high sounds like a good height. I have a friend who has chickens, and once some chickens escaped from a 3 foot fence, 4 feet would probably be okay. I would go 5 - 6 feet just to be safe though. :)

 

Yes, if separation is needed because of a wound or illness. I would put them far away, just in case the illness is contagious. Having a little area far away would also work if you needed to separate a mean one. But, if it is just because you need to introduce new ones into the flock, You could just section off part of the coop. 

 

Yep chickens need roosts! Roost are important because it helps them fulfill their natural instinct to go into trees at night. I would recommend the roost being at least 2-4 feet of the ground, and two inches wide. If you want you can provide multiple roosts. Keep in mind they will always try to go to the highest roost at night though, so don't put two roost directly beneath each other.  

 

Layer food is generally the type of food that is meant for grown-up hens that are regularly laying eggs, layer food can be three different cut sizes, crumble, pellet, and mash. Layer food generally has more calcium. Does that answer your question? Grower food is for chickens that are still growing and haven't started laying eggs. Starter is for very young chicks that need extra protein to grow feathers and get bigger! That website is pretty confusing, it looks pretty accurate though! Let me know if I didn't answer your question right. :laughing:

Spoiler

 

 

Okay! I finally got pics! Sorry about the wait. 

 

Sorry they are in links, I am too busy to upload them all to imgur. :)

https://ibb.co/j7is5f

The dark spots in the back of the nesting box is dirt stuck to the back. :)

https://ibb.co/e3PJBL

Here is a random pic of the food. XD I don't know why I am showing you their food. :laughing:

https://ibb.co/j0hYd0

Here is a picture of Lucy molting. She looks so pathetic. :P 

https://ibb.co/hn03d0

Keep in mind that their should be more substrate at the bottom of the nesting box, they just scratched it out. XD 

 

.... and a random chicken pic because why not. :rotfl: 

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 07:06 AM

 

Okay, thank you for all the info!

 

I have another question, lol. Our chicken coop has been unused for years, and it's really dirty. How would you recommend cleaning it?

 

ALSO (XD), does it need to be heated during the winter?

 

And one more (maybe...XD...) - at what time of day should you take the eggs? Does it matter?

 

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 07:45 AM

 

Oh. Haha, I have another...:P

 

Can you recommend any crumbles? Like commercial crumbles that I could get in Canada? :) And according to my research, it's fine to feed crumble on its own, right?

 

Thanks so much!



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 08:15 AM

 

Oh my gosh, you're probably thinking "Shut UP, already!" Lol.

 

Does something like this sound okay for chicks? And then pullets, and then adults?

 

Also, what about oyster shells? What do they do, and are the required?

 

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 12:46 PM

Okay, thank you for all the info!

 

I have another question, lol. Our chicken coop has been unused for years, and it's really dirty. How would you recommend cleaning it?

 

ALSO (XD), does it need to be heated during the winter?

 

And one more (maybe...XD...) - at what time of day should you take the eggs? Does it matter?

 

:)

1. Is your coop wooden? I would probably sweep out any dirt and stuff, and if it is dirty you can wipe down with a sponge, or spray with a bleach and water solution. (I don't really know the exact mixtures, so you might have to research that more) :) 

 

2. It really depends where you are in the winter. I am not trying to sterotype or anything but I since you are from Canada your winters are probably really cold. Our winters are really cold too, but I am sure not nearly as bad as yours. I don't really provide that many heat sources for my chickens but it is usually only a little below freezing in the winter. I(I mainly only use a heater to keep their water from freezing). I make sure they have plenty of places to get out of snow and wind. I also know how to check for frostbite and tell if they are too cold. But I have very cold-hardy breeds. XD My friend (the same friend) lives higher up in the mountains provide heat sources for her chickens and they are also perfectly fine each year. If I were you, I would provide a little heat, but I definitely wouldn't go overboard. Keep in mind, if your heat lamp or heater decides to malfunction or fail it can be very lethal to your chickens. They won't be used to the cold, and they might die. 

 

3. It doesn't really matter what time of day you gather the eggs. I usually do it in the afternoon/evening because chickens tend to lay their eggs in the early to late mornings. I like to give them plenty of privacy when they lay eggs. :laughing:

 

Oh. Haha, I have another...:P

 

Can you recommend any crumbles? Like commercial crumbles that I could get in Canada? :) And according to my research, it's fine to feed crumble on its own, right?

 

Thanks so much!

Sorry, I really can't help you there. I am in the US, and I don't really know any food brand there. Sorry. :( 

 

Oh my gosh, you're probably thinking "Shut UP, already!" Lol.

 

Does something like this sound okay for chicks? And then pullets, and then adults?

 

Also, what about oyster shells? What do they do, and are the required?

 

:)

Hmmm, the links don't work for me. I think it might be because you are in Canada and I am in US. Just remember that protein should be at 15%-18%. With chicks you want extra protein. 

 

Oyster shells aren't required, but they are very useful if your hens aren't getting enough calcium. It really depends on the food percentages. Ways to tell is if their eggshells are thin, if they are eating their eggs, if they are pulling each others feathers, etc. I usually give my hens a small handful of oyster shell every once in a while. I have not had any problems with too little calcium. 


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