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Edited by HamsterLover78, 01 February 2015 - 10:37 AM.

[Lon]

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Hi,  

 

Since you and your sister and siblings, I sure you can find a way to convince her! Fights, even big ones, do get around somehow. I suggest talking to her soon, maybe tomorrow. Ty to explain to her all the requirements of guinea pigs, how much they cost, and why they are so hard to care for. You'll have to do a bit of research if she's really stubborn and support your part of the debate with facts. 

 

Maybe you need to save up a lot more money before getting another pet. Any pet is expensive. You never know if something pops up. Or maybe you just want to spoil your pet!  

[autumn21]

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I don't really think continuously putting '...' is getting you anywhere. It'd be great if you could reply and share your opinion on things, so we get an idea of what you are thinking and what problems are arising rather than just sitting here and waiting to see.
I also recall that we were actually talking about Gerbils earlier- contrary to you saying 'We're talking about hamsters here, not gerbils'. I mentioned Gerbils, so did Emma&Chester, and it was only right that butterfinger added in some advice on the subject at hand (as she also has experience to mention to you).

 

As to get back on topic - Unless your whole family is cooperating in the adoption/purchase of a new animal, then I personally don't think you should get your head too far into it or else you will just be let down. First off, try and come up with a list of suitable animals for you. Then, think about this:

- Am I able to provide vet care regardless of price?

- Can I provide monthly costs regardless of price?

- Will I give up my time for this new animal, and will I be able to provide sufficient mental stimulation? 

- Can I provide a safe and happy home?

- Is it one hundred percent sure that I will give this animal everything it needs, space included?

- Is everyone in my household cooperating?
- Are there any dangers to the new animal?

- Do I understand the life long commitment?
- What will I do if something goes wrong (whether health or temperament in the animal)? 

 

If you have any doubts with any of those questions- try and take a step back and think 'Is this right?'. You'll have to be able to give up your hours for this animal, clean and feed them, donate your personal time/money, etc. Make sure you have the space and the right home. Any animal can be expensive, but really, whose going to take care of it? Will you parents do the tasks? Will you donate all of your time and money? Will you not feel stressed, or ever resent the animal?

So say, as a pure example below:
Mice
- Am I able to provide vet care regardless of price?
Yes! 
- Can I provide monthly costs regardless of price?
Yes I can!

I hope you generally get the point of what I'm saying. You'll have to do in depth research yourself for suitable animals, but to be honest you are very limited. If you want to get a Guinea Pig, they are cost and time expensive, they are required to be in pairs, and must have a large cage (in feet, not sq inches). I'm going to guess that isn't ideal for you- but then a smaller pet such as a gerbil aren't' entirely ideal either (I take it). 
 

 

Now onto the sister subject. Unfortunately, you yourself are going to have to find a way to convince her onto another pet. She's your sister, and at some point she'll have to listen to you. Not over text, but talking to her, actually sitting down and explaining. Try and convince her nicely, use tactics you know will get her on your side.

Example below:

Person1: Hey Person2, I know you want guinea pigs, but I don't think we can afford them..

Person2: Why? I think we can, they're easy
Person1: I'm not sure, they pretty much cost more than dogs.. and plus we can't afford the vets

Person2: Yeah, but..

 

Allow the conversation to continue while still keeping it level headed and trying to find out her reasoning. At some point, she'll run out of excuses or her want for them will disappear once she truly realizes the commitment. Explain to her civilly why you think it won't work, why you need to look for an alternative. Heck, even say you'll look with her for an alternative, so both of you can do 'fun' research. I hope it goes well for you, and you decide the right animal. x

Edited by WildestRose, 01 February 2015 - 10:18 PM.

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Hi,

 

Since you and your sister and siblings, I sure you can find a way to convince her! Fights, even big ones, do get around somehow. I suggest talking to her soon, maybe tomorrow. Ty to explain to her all the requirements of guinea pigs, how much they cost, and why they are so hard to care for. You'll have to do a bit of research if she's really stubborn and support your part of the debate with facts. 

 

Maybe you need to save up a lot more money before getting another pet. Any pet is expensive. You never know if something pops up. Or maybe you just want to spoil your pet!

I want to have about the happiest pet possible. I mainly want one to:

 

A: Keep me company

 

B: Cuddle with

I don't really think continuously putting '...' is getting you anywhere. It'd be great if you could reply and share your opinion on things, so we get an idea of what you are thinking and what problems are arising rather than just sitting here and waiting to see.
I also recall that we were actually talking about Gerbils earlier- contrary to you saying 'We're talking about hamsters here, not gerbils'. I mentioned Gerbils, so did Emma&Chester, and it was only right that butterfinger added in some advice on the subject at hand (as she also has experience to mention to you).

 

As to get back on topic - Unless your whole family is cooperating in the adoption/purchase of a new animal, then I personally don't think you should get your head too far into it or else you will just be let down. First off, try and come up with a list of suitable animals for you. Then, think about this:

- Am I able to provide vet care regardless of price?

- Can I provide monthly costs regardless of price?

- Will I give up my time for this new animal, and will I be able to provide sufficient mental stimulation? 

- Can I provide a safe and happy home?

- Is it one hundred percent sure that I will give this animal everything it needs, space included?

- Is everyone in my household cooperating?
- Are there any dangers to the new animal?

- Do I understand the life long commitment?
- What will I do if something goes wrong (whether health or temperament in the animal)? 

 

If you have any doubts with any of those questions- try and take a step back and think 'Is this right?'. You'll have to be able to give up your hours for this animal, clean and feed them, donate your personal time/money, etc. Make sure you have the space and the right home. Any animal can be expensive, but really, whose going to take care of it? Will you parents do the tasks? Will you donate all of your time and money? Will you not feel stressed, or ever resent the animal?

So say, as a pure example below:
Mice
- Am I able to provide vet care regardless of price?
Yes! 
- Can I provide monthly costs regardless of price?
Yes I can!

I hope you generally get the point of what I'm saying. You'll have to do in depth research yourself for suitable animals, but to be honest you are very limited. If you want to get a Guinea Pig, they are cost and time expensive, they are required to be in pairs, and must have a large cage (in feet, not sq inches). I'm going to guess that isn't ideal for you- but then a smaller pet such as a gerbil aren't' entirely ideal either (I take it). 
 

 

Now onto the sister subject. Unfortunately, you yourself are going to have to find a way to convince her onto another pet. She's your sister, and at some point she'll have to listen to you. Not over text, but talking to her, actually sitting down and explaining. Try and convince her nicely, use tactics you know will get her on your side.

Example below:

Person1: Hey Person2, I know you want guinea pigs, but I don't think we can afford them..

Person2: Why? I think we can, they're easy
Person1: I'm not sure, they pretty much cost more than dogs.. and plus we can't afford the vets

Person2: Yeah, but..

 

Allow the conversation to continue while still keeping it level headed and trying to find out her reasoning. At some point, she'll run out of excuses or her want for them will disappear once she truly realizes the commitment. Explain to her civilly why you think it won't work, why you need to look for an alternative. Heck, even say you'll look with her for an alternative, so both of you can do 'fun' research. I hope it goes well for you, and you decide the right animal. x

Hamsters, not gerbils, I didn't mean that.

[autumn21]

I want to have about the happiest pet possible. I mainly want one to:

 

A: Keep me company

 

B: Cuddle with

Hamsters, not gerbils, I didn't mean that.

 

To be honest, I think your looking more into a stuffed animal rather than an actual one. All animals are costly and will have to have certain requirements, whether that's a large cage, or specialized care, etc. As far as I can understand it, you want this:
- A small pet that's no bigger than a guinea pig
- An animal that is awake in the day 

- An animal that does not need to be taken out regularly (?)
- A low costing animals

- An animal to cuddle and bond with

Looking at that above, I'm having issues conjuring up anything. Have you asked your parents about this? Even just simply 'If we could get a future pet, what could we get?'. Just simply asking about their boundaries or knowing what they both want or don't want can really help. Also, finding out what they are willing to put up with in an animal. 

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I don't really think continuously putting '...' is getting you anywhere. It'd be great if you could reply and share your opinion on things, so we get an idea of what you are thinking and what problems are arising rather than just sitting here and waiting to see.
I also recall that we were actually talking about Gerbils earlier- contrary to you saying 'We're talking about hamsters here, not gerbils'. I mentioned Gerbils, so did Emma&Chester, and it was only right that butterfinger added in some advice on the subject at hand (as she also has experience to mention to you).

 

As to get back on topic - Unless your whole family is cooperating in the adoption/purchase of a new animal, then I personally don't think you should get your head too far into it or else you will just be let down. First off, try and come up with a list of suitable animals for you. Then, think about this:

- Am I able to provide vet care regardless of price?

- Can I provide monthly costs regardless of price?

- Will I give up my time for this new animal, and will I be able to provide sufficient mental stimulation? 

- Can I provide a safe and happy home?

- Is it one hundred percent sure that I will give this animal everything it needs, space included?

- Is everyone in my household cooperating?
- Are there any dangers to the new animal?

- Do I understand the life long commitment?
- What will I do if something goes wrong (whether health or temperament in the animal)? 

 

If you have any doubts with any of those questions- try and take a step back and think 'Is this right?'. You'll have to be able to give up your hours for this animal, clean and feed them, donate your personal time/money, etc. Make sure you have the space and the right home. Any animal can be expensive, but really, whose going to take care of it? Will you parents do the tasks? Will you donate all of your time and money? Will you not feel stressed, or ever resent the animal?

So say, as a pure example below:
Mice
- Am I able to provide vet care regardless of price?
Yes! 
- Can I provide monthly costs regardless of price?
Yes I can!

I hope you generally get the point of what I'm saying. You'll have to do in depth research yourself for suitable animals, but to be honest you are very limited. If you want to get a Guinea Pig, they are cost and time expensive, they are required to be in pairs, and must have a large cage (in feet, not sq inches). I'm going to guess that isn't ideal for you- but then a smaller pet such as a gerbil aren't' entirely ideal either (I take it). 
 

 

Now onto the sister subject. Unfortunately, you yourself are going to have to find a way to convince her onto another pet. She's your sister, and at some point she'll have to listen to you. Not over text, but talking to her, actually sitting down and explaining. Try and convince her nicely, use tactics you know will get her on your side.

Example below:

Person1: Hey Person2, I know you want guinea pigs, but I don't think we can afford them..

Person2: Why? I think we can, they're easy
Person1: I'm not sure, they pretty much cost more than dogs.. and plus we can't afford the vets

Person2: Yeah, but..

 

Allow the conversation to continue while still keeping it level headed and trying to find out her reasoning. At some point, she'll run out of excuses or her want for them will disappear once she truly realizes the commitment. Explain to her civilly why you think it won't work, why you need to look for an alternative. Heck, even say you'll look with her for an alternative, so both of you can do 'fun' research. I hope it goes well for you, and you decide the right animal. x

That might work... hmmm.... well, this will take a while. I realized we weren't going to get a dog, so I switched to rats. After realizing they're so expensive, I switch to something like a mouse (those aren't nocturnal, right?) or possibly even the hermit crab idea. I tell my sister this, she says:

 

1: I only want a guinea pig!!!!!!!

 

2: If we play with it often, we only need to get 1!!!!!!!! (We, especially my sister, who says it's only going to be HER pet, don't have the time to play with it often We're procrastinators, so we're always rushing to get our homework done before 9:00 when we need to go to bed. It's usually 8:30.)

 

To be honest, I think your looking more into a stuffed animal rather than an actual one. All animals are costly and will have to have certain requirements, whether that's a large cage, or specialized care, etc. As far as I can understand it, you want this:
- A small pet that's no bigger than a guinea pig
- An animal that is awake in the day 

- An animal that does not need to be taken out regularly (?)
- A low costing animals

- An animal to cuddle and bond with

Looking at that above, I'm having issues conjuring up anything. Have you asked your parents about this? Even just simply 'If we could get a future pet, what could we get?'. Just simply asking about their boundaries or knowing what they both want or don't want can really help. Also, finding out what they are willing to put up with in an animal. 

I have got about 555,555,555 stuffed animals. I could really use any pet, my mom says we would get a dog if she didn't work, but she does, so that proves we can get a pet if it won't need attention while we're gone.

Edited by HamsterLover78, 01 February 2015 - 10:36 PM.

[Lon]

Mice are nocturnal. Most rodents are nocturnal. And I can say, mice aren't very cheaper than hamsters. They chew a lot, so you'll most likely be buying new chews constantly. They can also chew through plastic. And they love burrowing, so deep bedding is best for them.

Hermit crabs also need heat (correct me if I'm wrong.) so you need to take that into consideration.

Edited by Iris ♥, 01 February 2015 - 11:32 PM.

[Kaibrooke]

That might work... hmmm.... well, this will take a while. I realized we weren't going to get a dog, so I switched to rats. After realizing they're so expensive, I switch to something like a mouse (those aren't nocturnal, right?) or possibly even the hermit crab idea. I tell my sister this, she says:

 

1: I only want a guinea pig!!!!!!!

 

2: If we play with it often, we only need to get 1!!!!!!!! (We, especially my sister, who says it's only going to be HER pet, don't have the time to play with it often We're procrastinators, so we're always rushing to get our homework done before 9:00 when we need to go to bed. It's usually 8:30.)

 

I have got about 555,555,555 stuffed animals. I could really use any pet, my mom says we would get a dog if she didn't work, but she does, so that proves we can get a pet if it won't need attention while we're gone.

The sentence that I highlighted in red is not true. Guinea pigs need a friend of their own species - humans cannot provide constant interaction, constant company, or constant guinea pig communication. Guinea pigs can become lonely and depressed without a friend of their own species.

 

Also, as stated before, guinea pigs are much too out of your price range. I'm not sure how old your sister is, but perhaps it would benefit her to tell her that their monthly cost around $40 or more, which is completely unrealistic with your $210 per year budget.

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The sentence that I highlighted in red is not true. Guinea pigs need a friend of their own species - humans cannot provide constant interaction, constant company, or constant guinea pig communication. Guinea pigs can become lonely and depressed without a friend of their own species.

 

Also, as stated before, guinea pigs are much too out of your price range. I'm not sure how old your sister is, but perhaps it would benefit her to tell her that their monthly cost around $40 or more, which is completely unrealistic with your $210 per year budget.

First off, I meant $210 per month, and second off, my sister will be 16 in March.

[Emma&Chester]

No offence, but you're sister certainly does NOT sound ready for the responsibility of a pig becauses she's clearly done absolutely no research. Guinea pigs *need* other guinea pig companionship - this isn't an optional thing likes she's making it out to be. It's a *must*. A human CANNOT fill the shoes of another pig. We do not speak guinea pig, nor can we snuggle with them in their cages. It doesn't work like that. A guinea pig doesn't see a human as another guinea pig. She has the wrong idea.

I'm going to say as of right now, no pet seems suitable. All the animals you want, you can't get so you seem to just be jumping around and looking for an animal just for the sake of it rather than because you want it. I don't like that idea at all.

And yes, hermit crabs need heat like mentioned above. Animals are a lot of work - this isn't a decision to take lightly.

ETA: Really? $210 per month? Hmph. Why are you looking for cheap pets then? I thought money was an issue, no?

Edited by Emma&Chester, 01 February 2015 - 11:40 PM.

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Yeah.... I really am responsible for a pet... I just need to do the reaserch...

You seem to be quite limited to the pets you can actually own, I'd personally say fish, but as they aren't an option, I'm unsure.

Just as a general question, have you looked into animals such as Gerbils, Rats, Mice, Reptiles, etc? 

Yes, i've had a phase of about every animal you've stated except mice.

[UltimateCowgirl]

Okay. You can afford $210 dollars a month. You want something that would be awake during the day. You want something that doesn't require as much care as a cat or dog. And you want something you can bond with. Now I really am just throwing it out there and they require A LOT  of care but have you tried a ferret? They sleep about 18 hours a day, bond with you, can be trained, don't require quite as much care as a cat or dog but are just under. They need a big cage and lots of attention and are costly though but it really pays off. t=There is also such thing as owning one a budget though. (please don't blame me for being  big time ferret lover)

[lluvia]

Ferrets, in my opinion, need more care than a cat.. (or around that area.) If you know you can't care for a cat, I wouldn't get a ferret.

Edited by EightCloudyCupcakes, 01 February 2015 - 11:57 PM.

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No offence, but you're sister certainly does NOT sound ready for the responsibility of a pig becauses she's clearly done absolutely no research. Guinea pigs *need* other guinea pig companionship - this isn't an optional thing likes she's making it out to be. It's a *must*. A human CANNOT fill the shoes of another pig. We do not speak guinea pig, nor can we snuggle with them in their cages. It doesn't work like that. A guinea pig doesn't see a human as another guinea pig. She has the wrong idea.

I'm going to say as of right now, no pet seems suitable. All the animals you want, you can't get so you seem to just be jumping around and looking for an animal just for the sake of it rather than because you want it. I don't like that idea at all.

And yes, hermit crabs need heat like mentioned above. Animals are a lot of work - this isn't a decision to take lightly.

ETA: Really? $210 per month? Hmph. Why are you looking for cheap pets then? I thought money was an issue, no?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... i spent 100 dollars on my hamster before I even got him.............$210 per every two months, I meant... I can;t afford lessons, but I can afford a spoiled little hammy and two cats! 210 dollars per every two months would be no problemo!

Ferrets, in my opinion, need more care than a cat.. (or around that area.) If you know you can't care for a cat, I wouldn't get a ferret.

we CAN care for cats!

[lluvia]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... i spent 100 dollars on my hamster before I even got him.............$210 per every two months, I meant... I can;t afford lessons, but I can afford a spoiled little hammy and two cats! 210 dollars per every two months would be no problemo!

we CAN care for cats!

My apologies! But still, ferrets can be more costly then cats. They need a lot of toys, a large cage, vet trips, etc. They need a lot of attention. Research them a bit. Do they fit your lifestyle?  Ferrets are pet you need to think long about before getting! (Like most/all pets!)

Edited by EightCloudyCupcakes, 02 February 2015 - 12:04 AM.